For people in the know :DD

[S.L.N]

F-22 Raptor vs. PAK 50
lets say hypothetical dogfight, which should leave the fight alive?
granted alot it placed on the pilot, Im just curious, ive seen the supposed pak50 and stats are saying that its faster, and has better avionics than our own D=

[Razgriz_37]

It may be faster, Russia is known for some pretty fast engines however the avionics being more advanced than the U.S., HA, Poppycock! No way is that true, then again you never know Russia may have stepped their game up while we were wondering if we could afford to produce large numbers for squadrons of Raptors.

[Pirates_Smile]

It may be faster, Russia is known for some pretty fast engines however the avionics being more advanced than the U.S., HA, Poppycock! No way is that true, then again you never know Russia may have stepped their game up while we were wondering if we could afford to produce large numbers for squadrons of Raptors.

Totally agree with that statement...Think the US is lagging behind in avionics?


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[S.L.N]

Avionics
The PAK-FA will have two X-Band AESA radars located on the front and back of the aircraft. These will be accompanied by L-Band radars which are thought to be located on the wing LERX sides. L-Band radars are proven to have increased effectiveness against VLO targets which are optimized only against X-Band frequencies, despite being less accurate.
Unlike the F-22 the PAK-FA will feature an IRST optical/IR search and tracking system. The IRST promises to be the best way to target stealth aircraft since regardless of the IR stealth claims made of the F-22, jet engines are fundamentally not conducive to IR invisibility. The trail of hot air behind the F-22 is likely the first thing the PAK-FA may see, perhaps as far as 25km.
Sukhoi’s recent demonstration cockpit mock-ups, which may relate to both Su-35 or PAK-FA, suggest two very large MFDs and a very wide HUD. The T-50-1’s cockpit clearly has the massive HUD. If this mock-up cockpit is essentially similar to PAK-FA’s, then compared to the F-22 the PAK-FA’s will take advantage of advancing technologies of past decade and be relatively more advanced than F-22s.
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[Warren]

LOL Welcome to the 80's. LOLOLOL
That things is maybe "near" stealth. They might have wrapped it in ram but that thing will give off HUGE signitures, plus they have a very, very long way to go before anything will be ready for production then sales........ 5 to 8 years.

Nice to see them trying or cryin' to catch up more like it, too bad we have already started moving on to scam tech engines and pilotless aircraft. We're coming up with so much stuff, so quickly it is hard for us to go in one single direction but it finally looks ike Darpa will go with the Black Swift program. Hell, even the USN is geting in on the UAV game with the X47.

We dont show off our nice toys, even when they are finished..................................only untill we have to.

If you dont follow the whats going ons of the aerospace industry........... I present to you the Beast of Kanharar, already in service.

[Razgriz_37]

Oooh that's a sexy lookin' aircraft there.

You guys see the so called concept art on youtube for Russian and U.S planes?

They say some of these are gonna be in China's airforce.



They're so proud of it, lol.

[Redhornet]

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We have officially moved into the "Wing Commander/X-Wing" age. That type of avionics suite combined with the aircraft and pilot training we have will win over anyone else on the planet.

It's only a matter of time before those avionics are installed and operational on the Globalhawk and other unmanned aircraft.

[Razgriz_37]

Redjoy said we may be heading into space with our fighters like Starlancer